9800 Working

A Flasher's Buying Guide - ATI Radeon 9800 Series

All Radeon 9800 cards are 8x AGP enabled, and need to have pins 3 and 11 disabled in order to work in ADC-capable G4 Macs (Gigabit Ethernet, Digital Audio, Quicksilver, Mirrored Drive Doors, FW800)

9800 Pro 128MB

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Specifications:
Core speed: 378MHz
RAM speed: 337.5MHz DDR
Pipelines: 8 (full)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 2x + 4x + 8x Compatible - All Tower G4s and Tower G5s with AGP slots
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 130 ROM
Reduced ROM: 9800 Pro 130 Reduced ROM
Notes: This is the most common 9800 card; it's the easiest to flash and the most compatible.

9800 (Non-Pro) 128MB

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Specifications:
Core speed: 325MHz
RAM speed: 290MHz DDR
Pipelines: 8 (full)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 2x + 4x + 8x Compatible - All Tower G4s and Tower G5s with AGP slots
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Full ROM: 9800 Non-Pro 130 ROM
Reduced ROM: 9800 Pro 130 Reduced ROM (you will need to lower the speeds of this ROM with Graphiccelerator)
Notes: Older card, not very common; 9800 Pro with slower parts; may be overclockable to Pro or near-Pro speeds however.

9800XT 256MB

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Specifications:
Core speed: 412MHz
RAM speed: 365MHz DDR
Pipelines: 8 (full)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 4x + 8x Compatible - Digital Audio & newer Tower G4's and Tower G5's with AGP slots
Note: Cards (such as the one pictured) with only one gap ("key") in the gold AGP connector are 4x/8x Compatible only, and will work only in G4 Towers Digital Audio (466+MHz) and newer, as well as G5's.
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional with Pro ROM, VGA only with XT ROM
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 134 ROM or 9800XT 118 ROM (to raise the speeds of either ROM to PC XT levels, use Graphiccelerator)
Reduced ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 134 ROM reduced] (untested) 9800XT 118 ROM reduced] (VGA only)
Notes: Fastest of the 9800 cards.
When flashed with the Mac XT ROM: This card can use all 256MB of RAM, and, in most cases, variable speed fan control works as well. However, the DVI port will only output analog video, meaning that it cannot drive a DVI display; only a VGA monitor through an adapter. The S-Video port will not function.
When flashed with the 9800 Pro ROM: The card can use all 256MB of RAM, and all ports will function correctly. The card's fan will run at full speed all the time, which is louder, and can be annoying.

9800XT Uni-Wise 256MB

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Specifications:
Core speed: 400MHz
RAM speed: 325MHz DDR
Pipelines: 8 (full)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 4x + 8x Compatible - Digital Audio & newer Tower G4's and Tower G5's with AGP slots
Note: Cards (such as the one pictured) with only one gap ("key") in the gold AGP connector are 4x/8x Compatible only, and will work only in G4 Towers Digital Audio (466+MHz) and newer, as well as G5's.
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional with Pro ROM, VGA only with XT ROM
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
ROM to use: See 9800XT above.
Notes: This is a rare card made by GeCube and Grandmars with a special (and very nice looking) copper cooler and a slightly different board layout. It has been flashed successfully and its details are identical to the 9800XT above, although note that the stock clock speeds are slightly lower.

9800 Pro 256MB - 8 chips

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Specifications: See 9800 Pro
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 130 ROM
Reduced ROM:

Notes: The other way to get double the RAM is to use the same number of RAM chips, but double the density. That's what this card is. Arti has made a special version of the 9800 Pro 130 ROM that enables all 256MB to be used on these cards, as long as they have DDR (and not DDR2) RAM.

9800 Pro 256MB - DDR2

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Specifications: See 9800 Pro
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB DDR2 130 ROM
Reduced ROM:

Notes: These 256MB 9800 Pro cards use DDR2 RAM rather than standard DDR; Arti has made a special ROM for these that is now available in the WikiDownloads.

9800 Pro 256MB - XT board

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Specifications: See 9800 Pro
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 134 ROM
Reduced ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 134 ROM reduced] (untested) 9800XT 118 ROM reduced] (VGA only)
Cards sold as "256MB 9800 Pro" are also sometimes sold built on the 9800XT board (see 9800XT above), running at Pro speeds. This card has a smaller, more modest cooler, which is believe is not speed-controlled. Good results have been had flashing such cards with the Retail 256MB Radeon 9800 Pro v134 ROM. See forum threads here and here.

9800XT 256MB - Pro Board

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Specifications:
Core speed: 412MHz
RAM speed: 365MHz DDR
Full ROM: 9800 Pro 256MB 130 ROM

All other details correspond with 9800 Pro

Notes: Basically a 256MB 9800 Pro with an R360 (9800XT) chip. Known to be made, with often disappointing quality, by disreputable manufacturer Jetway. Many of these cards fail to live up to the specifications that they are advertised at, and most of the cooling fans seem to fail.

9800SE 128MB 256-bit

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Specifications:
Core speed: 325-350MHz
RAM speed: 290-300MHz DDR
Pipelines: 4 (half)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 2x + 4x + 8x Compatible - All Tower G4s and Tower G5s with AGP slots
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional
G4 Cube: Possible, VRM move required, external power reccommended, cooling questionable.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Full ROM: 9800SE 128MB 256-bit 130 ROM
Notes: Handicapped 9800 - half of the pixel pipelines disabled. Built on the 9700 Pro board.

Sapphire 9800 (Pro, Non-Pro, and SE) 128MB on Small (9700-sized) Black Board

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Flashable. Fits in Cubes, although sometimes problematic.

Notes: The same basic details (speeds, pipelines, etc) apply to the Pro, Non-Pro, and SE varieties of this card as apply to normal "reference design" 9800's. These cards are sometimes unstable in Cubes, and supposedly have a better success rate in towers. The only benefit of their smaller, non-standard design is that they are small enough to fit in a Cube, provided the Voltage Regulator Module (VRM) has been moved, and additional power and cooling are added.

9800SE 128MB 128-bit

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Specifications:
Core speed: 325-350MHz
RAM speed: 290-300MHz DDR
Pipelines: 4 (half)
Memory bus: 128-bit (half)
AGP: 2x + 4x + 8x Compatible - All Tower G4s and Tower G5s with AGP slots
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video All fully functional
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Full ROM: 9800SE 128MB 128-bit 130 ROM
Notes: Doubly handicapped 9800 - half of the pixel pipelines disabled, and width of the RAM bus also halved. Built on the 9500 Pro board.

9800XL

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Specifications:
Core speed: 350MHz
RAM speed: 310MHz DDR
Pipelines: 8 (full)
Memory bus: 256-bit (full)
AGP: 2x + 4x + 8x Compatible - All Tower G4s and Tower G5s with AGP slots
Ports: DVI-I, VGA, and S-Video
G4 Cube: Not compatible.
ROM chip: 64 or 128k
Notes: This card is sold by Medion, and perhaps also by MSI. Nobody has reported on the flashing of one today, so I'd give it a 50/50 chance of working, based on the information available.

Hercules Prophet 9800 Pro 128MB

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Specifications: see 9800 Pro 128MB
ROM chip: 64k or 128k
Notes: This card is essentially a regular 9800 Pro video card, however, it features far superior cooling to the stock 9800 (better fan, and heatsinks on the ram chips) which make it must more suitable for Mirror Drive models.

ASUS 9800 Pro/XT 256MB

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Specifications: see 9800 XT (and notes below)
ROM chip: 9800 Pro 256MB v130 reduced known to work (v134 reduced does not)
Notes: This card is usually marked as a 9800 Pro 256MB but has the R360 chip of the XT model so can usually be clocked at XT speeds. It flashes fine with the 9800 Pro 256MB rom (v130 works) to give DVI output, and because the fans are much quieter than the stock XT fans, doesn't drive you crazy like the XT on a Pro rom does.

FireGL X2 256t

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Specifications: See 9800XT
Ports: Dual DVI-I Untested functionality
ROM chip: Probably 64K.
Notes: Exotic and expensive high-end card. Hardware-wise, save the addition of the second DVI port and omission of S-Video, this card is identical to the 9800XT. If you should happen to come across one of these cards, you may be able to flash it using the Mac 9800XT ROM and get dual-DVI functionality along with some nice, fast performance. Such a flash has never been reported. It may also be the case that this card will mimic the behavior of the 9700-based FireGL X1, and each port will only do VGA output when flashed with the Mac XT ROM. It has been reported that when flashed with the Pro ROM that one of the ports works, but the other does not.
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